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    Exeter away - crowd crushing problems

    Post by soupdragon on Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:55 pm

    Can't believe I didn't get tickets for Exeter,s game next weekend!
    I applied for me and my two boys within 10 minutes of the phase being made available
    Looks like Swindon will be the next away game we get to!

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    Post by Billyisgod on Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:22 pm

    ticket allocations are always a mystery at elland road, always have been and probably always will be?

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    Post by Garlic bread on Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:32 am

    just hope my application for spurs is successful...
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    Post by LUFC DAVE on Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:02 am

    im off to exeter


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    Re: Exeter away - crowd crushing problems

    Post by LUSCBRADFORD on Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:05 am

    soupdragon wrote:Can't believe I didn't get tickets for Exeter,s game next weekend!
    I applied for me and my two boys within 10 minutes of the phase being made available
    Looks like Swindon will be the next away game we get to!
    I believe RMC`s are pushing for a change in what matches are classed as "Loyalty Games".Once again for Exeter a large number of Hardcore away Supporters have missed out.I feel that this is possibly one of the issues where LUST can help the club to determine which games could be "Loyalty" games. I appreciate this may not help you personally but may help Leeds Fans in general.
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    Post by soupdragon on Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:37 am

    LUSCBRADFORD wrote:
    soupdragon wrote:Can't believe I didn't get tickets for Exeter,s game next weekend!
    I applied for me and my two boys within 10 minutes of the phase being made available
    Looks like Swindon will be the next away game we get to!
    I believe RMC`s are pushing for a change in what matches are classed as "Loyalty Games".Once again for Exeter a large number of Hardcore away Supporters have missed out.I feel that this is possibly one of the issues where LUST can help the club to determine which games could be "Loyalty" games. I appreciate this may not help you personally but may help Leeds Fans in general.
    Your probably right, I have to pick and choose which games I can afford to get the 3 of us to. So not likely to have enough loyalty points.
    But I don't think anyone will complain if the system is fair and transparent.
    Ironically the more games like Exeter that I could go to then the more loyalty points I will gain.
    Hopefully with our reputation improving, something the club and the trust could work together to promote, our allocation of tickets will increase.
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    Re: Exeter away - crowd crushing problems

    Post by soupdragon on Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:29 am

    Travel info for those of you making it down this way...
    You may have seen the travel disruption on the news in the Exeter area.
    The roads that were blocked are beyond Exeter and would not affect your journey heading south for the game, should there be a repeat of the problems nearer the weekend.
    The max temperature today (Wednesday) is 5°C and 7 to 9°C is forecast for Friday and Saturday, although heavy rain is expected on Saturday.

    For what it's worth, it took me 3 hours to get from Exeter to Torquay after work.
    They had already shut the main roads before I set off and a lot of the minor roads were blocked by accidents. We aren't very well prepared for snow down here!
    Still my weapon of choice yesterday, the mighty Corsa diesel did a sterling job, 4x4's are for whimps! LOL

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    Post by Billyisgod on Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:10 pm

    i like you soupy but dont diss the 4x4 crew Wink
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    Post by soupdragon on Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:54 am

    Billyisgod wrote:i like you soupy but dont diss the 4x4 crew Wink

    Aye they have their uses!

    The amount of pot holes and 'engineered' bumps on the roads I'm beginning to see the benefits!

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    Post by Billyisgod on Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:38 pm

    soupdragon wrote:
    Billyisgod wrote:i like you soupy but dont diss the 4x4 crew Wink

    Aye they have their uses!

    The amount of pot holes and 'engineered' bumps on the roads I'm beginning to see the benefits!

    their built for fishing tackle and getting to the most awkward parts of the irish lochs mate Wink
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    Post by soupdragon on Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:04 pm

    Billyisgod wrote:
    soupdragon wrote:
    Billyisgod wrote:i like you soupy but dont diss the 4x4 crew Wink

    Aye they have their uses!

    The amount of pot holes and 'engineered' bumps on the roads I'm beginning to see the benefits!

    their built for fishing tackle and getting to the most awkward parts of the irish lochs mate Wink

    Indeed they are...but my beef is with those that find this ability makes them ideal for getting the kids to school!?
    And when you meet them in the lanes they won't drive too near the hedge incase it gets dirty
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    Post by soupdragon on Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:05 pm

    Weather update for Exeter Saturday...10C with heavy rain and windy
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    Post by soupdragon on Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:00 am

    soupdragon wrote:Weather update for Exeter Saturday...10C with heavy rain and windy

    Exeter are apparently going to play 3 at the back, with one defender suspended and another sold to Southampton
    So if we are back on form we should be able to further improve our goal difference as well as picking up the all important 3 points!

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    Post by Billyisgod on Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:13 am

    1-4 Leeds mate Wink

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    Post by the_peacock on Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:40 am

    Link from the FSF
    Report on Exeter trouble.

    Leeds United fans who made the long journey to Exeter’s St James Park for their club’s League One clash earlier this season have been exonerated of any blame for a crush which developed in the away end.

    United fans had complained to the FSF that they had been unfairly blamed for the incident which occurred on January 16th 2010 and a report compiled by the FSF - after meeting with fans, the police, and Exeter City - has cleared them of any wrongdoing. Exeter City have also apologised to Leeds United fans involved.

    A large contingent of Leeds fans had made the long journey south, selling out Exeter’s away end, and demand was such that many Leeds fans purchased tickets for the home end.

    Shortly before 3pm Exeter officials made a loudspeaker announcement asking Leeds fans in the home areas to move to the away section. They also threatened any travelling supporters with ejection if they were found in home areas after the game kicked off. Around 100 took up the offer and were escorted towards the away end.

    At the same time a similar number of fellow Leeds fans were also outside the away end with many of these claiming their delayed arrival was caused by the police’s decision to hold Leeds coaches at the Moto services on the M5.

    In the fourth minute, with more than 100 fans still queuing to get in to the away end, Exeter scored. People then poured into the ground in an attempt to see what was happening and a dangerous bottleneck built up immediately inside of the turnstiles with the situation worsening as yet more crowded in behind them.

    You can see mobile phone footage of the incident from the following links: ‘Exeter V Leeds fans’ and ‘Leeds@Exeter’.

    A dangerous situation arose as more people came through the turnstiles and added to the crush. Thankfully police and stewards, assisted by St John Ambulance staff, reacted to the problem and people were pulled clear or climbed a wall to escape the mêlée. Fortunately no-one was seriously hurt.

    Subsequently the Exeter Express & Echo's report carried statements from the home club which appeared to blame away fans for the incident. Leeds fans were accused of arriving late, refusing to move down the away terrace (turnstiles are only open at one end of the stand), and ignoring loudspeaker announcements.

    Leeds United Supporters’ Trust and the Leeds United Supporters’ Club, both affiliates of the FSF, asked us for help after angry Leeds fans filled internet forums with a series of complaints against Exeter City FC and the Devon and Cornwall police. While the Exeter Safety Advisory Group (consisting of representatives from Exeter City FC, Devon and Cornwall police, the FA, and the County Council) had met to discuss the incident, no fans’ representatives were invited.

    Therefore Ken Malley, who represents the South West and South Wales Division on the FSF’s National Council, arranged a meeting which took place on March 25th with Dave Gaertner of Leeds United Supporters Club in attendance alongside Frances Farley (Operations at Exeter City), Jim Eastment (Safety Officer at Exeter) and Inspector Matt Lawler (Devon and Cornwall police).

    “We are grateful to the club and police for meeting with us and answering all questions in an open manner,” said Ken Malley. “Our investigation established that Leeds fans were not to blame for the crush at the away turnstile and we’re pleased to see that action will be taken to prevent this scenario ever happening again in the future.”

    These actions include:

    * Removal of the ‘pinch point’ where the crush occurred. This will be achieved by stewarding the area so that no fans can congregate there until after the adjacent turnstiles close.
    * On any future visits to St James Park Leeds United fans will shadow Devon and Cornwall police so that better lines of communication are established between the two parties.
    * According to Leeds fans’ evidence some of the problem lay in the decision to hold back coaches before kick-off. Devon and Cornwall police have promised to review their procedures for each game on an individual basis to avoid an identical scenario occurring in the future.

    It’s absolutely vital that supporters stick together and report incidents such as this. Thankfully nobody was hurt but next time fans might not have been so lucky. By reporting the crush to the FSF Leeds fans enabled us to constructively work with the club and authorities to put an end to this problem. Fans travelling to Exeter are now safer thanks to the work of the FSF and its Leeds United affiliates.
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    Post by soupdragon on Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:13 am

    It was lucky that no-one was seriously hurt.
    There are police forces that still think Leeds fans are trouble.
    Some positive PR in this area could get us more tickets in the future at away fixtures.
    It should be obvious to Exeter City and the D&C Police that part of the problem was caused by the small allocation.

    At least something positive came from it in the end.

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    Post by Garlic bread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:11 am

    good positive mention of the trust as well

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    Post by Lee D'su on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:04 am

    Yes, and since I saw myself on Youtube at the game I've lost 2 stone. I've gone from a fat old fucker to an old fucker.

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